Wednesday evening’s Frog Hollow NRZ meeting was full of irony.
The meeting began with discussion about blighted properties, including the Capitol West building. While considering possible proactive measures to take about the Myrtle Street eyesore, which is one of the first sights to greet visitors to Hartford, Glenn Geathers — Project Manager of Department of Development Services Economic Development Division — basically told concerned residents that there was nothing to be done, even though no positive changes have been made to this property in years. He said that the economy dried up the owner’s grand vision of developing this structure into condominiums. So, we’re told to sit tight and wait.
When the main topic of discussion — the “emergency” demolition of the Lyric Theater — came up, Geathers espoused the same sentiment. Sorry folks. Nothing for you to do here. Move on.
That’s a paraphrase, but not far from what could have been renamed “A Lesson in How to Alienate Community Residents and Stakeholders.” While nobody was trying to shoot the messengers, Geathers responded to every question as if it were a personal attack rather than something one could reasonably be concerned about. Hartford residents have an unearned reputation for being apathetic; however, tonight’s meeting showed what happens when concerns are raised — we’re treated as if our questions are somehow out of line. We’re given the message that we are irritating and standing in the way of “progress.” Or, we’re told that the conversation already happened. Regardless, residents’ concerns were many — from historical preservation to cost to environmental health to wondering how area businesses would be impacted both in the long run, as well as on the upcoming weekend. While Downtown might appear “dead,” the same cannot be said about Frog Hollow on the weekend. Park Street is bustling then with foot traffic. There are many shops open. During demolition, Broad Street would be closed to traffic from Park to Ward. People, business, traffic, and more could be affected by the demolition.
Still, nobody can say people were quiet about this, despite the profound lack of communication about this issue. Giselle Fernandez Feliciano, executive assistant to Councilman Torres, said that the City Council were not informed of the demolition until she began getting phone calls from upset constituents at “twenty of four [p.m.],” just an hour and a half before the Department of Development Services were to make an appearance at the monthly Frog Hollow NRZ meeting. That there was no communication within City Hall about the slated destruction of a large structure located at a major intersection (Broad and Park) is unacceptable.
Michael Fuschi, the inspector, filled out his order letter on March 18, 2010. From the details given, there’s no doubt that something must be done to correct the problem. He wrote:
Lyric Theater [856 Broad] is in imminent danger of collapse & the residential portion (585 Park) is deemed unsafe.
Lyric Theater is ordered to be demolished. 585Park St side may be salvaged, but would require structural engineer to evaluate.
When residents and stakeholders asked about the ambiguous language of this order, (i.e. how would they know that the part of the building facing Park Street would really be saved) both Fuschi and Geathers waffled. Also confusing is that the address given on the demolition order is 585 Park Street, even though verbally, we were told that 856 Broad would be the demolished section, and not Park. One resident asked if we would know in a week if that portion is salvageable. Fuschi responded with a hesitant “yes.” Between the hesitancy, reluctance to give straight answers, lack of proactive communication, and ambiguous wording, one has trouble trusting.
The demolition order, according to Geathers and Fuschi, is “about public safety. Geathers said that “bricks popping off” the Broad Street side of the building have recently fallen to the sidewalk below; a concrete cap also fell off. They indicated that the cupola would likely collapse into the building, but could end up on the sidewalk. Photographs taken inside the theater show huge holes in the ceiling. One can see the sky from inside the theater. Geathers said, “you got trees growing up out of the holes in here.” As a result, the plan is to demolish the part of the building where the theater was, but retain one portion which faces Park Street. The Park Street side (585 Park) might be saved after it’s walled off. As some noted, the demolition process could weaken the 585 Park St section of the structure, which is where they plan to store 30,000-50,000 of the bricks salvaged from the Lyric Theater. Others were concerned that the City might dump hundreds of thousands of dollars into bandaid attempts at preserving 585 Park, only to demolish that in a few years as well.
The Lyric Theater closed in 1979. After thirty years of “demolition by neglect” and a cost of upwards of $400,000 for stabilization and abatement, the City has decided to remove it via “emergency demolition” on March 27th and 28th. The inside of the theater was gutted and cleaned out over three years ago. Geathers claimed that “no one’s ever given us a proposal…for the redevelopment of this.” It’s hard to believe that the City could not have worked more carefully with potential investors/owners as to encourage a serious proposal at some point over the past thirty years.
The Lyric Theater has been sitting vacant as property of the City for years. When blight exists for this long, it can hardly be considered an “emergency.” One asks what was being done for the past several decades to maintain this building. What can we expect the City of Hartford to do in terms of other people’s blighted properties if it can not even maintain its own?
This brings us back to irony. While Capitol West sits vacant, open to the elements, and neglected, it is likely going to become the taxpayers’ problem when, no doubt, it eventually winds up property of the City of Hartford. Do we act now, or do we wait — four, ten, thirty years — and by doing so, allow another building to become so decrepit that the Department of “Development” Services decides it is more profitable to wreck a building than to preserve it? The message we got was to sit and wait.
Don’t.
Karma
As if the situation was not infuriating enough, that fact that Mr. Geathers (a city employee, paid by the taxes of residents) would waltz into such a meeting and treat the interested public in such a manner is disgusting. Such behavior only solidifies suspicions that the demolition is driven by prerogative (or at best a lack of interest) less than need, and that the city did not explore multiple options to protect this building and the money city residents have invested in preserving it to this point. The statement that, “no one’s ever given us a proposal…for the redevelopment of this.” is absolutely false. I have seen alternative proposals. I dont know if Geathers was uninformed or just flat out lying, who knows, but either way such a statement is insulting. This whole situation is insulting.
Kerri Provost
Are you referring to this: http://www.crosskey.com/pgMasterLyric.html
http://www.cttrust.org/CircuitRiderReport?initials=BS
http://www.hartfordhistory.net/wwwboard/2006_05_01_archive.html
While I’m not sure that any of these technically count as proposals, it’s hard to argue with electronically archived evidence that there has been discussion about the building for a few years. At any point, these concepts could have been nurtured into fruition with some help from various people in City Hall.
Heather Brandon
Yes, the library idea had been in place for a while from what I can tell. The following information is copied from a report included in Frog Hollow NRZ minutes from August 2008.
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July 29, 2008. The chair led an organizational meeting on Strategic Project 29, “Develop Broad Street as a technology corridor and an entrepreneurial incubator.” The meeting was prompted by a review of the City’s engineering report on the Lyric Theater, which shows the Lyric to be in severe distress. Attending the meeting were Anwar Ahmed, Hartford Public Library; Leticia Cotto, Park Branch of the Hartford Public Library; Michael Czaczkes, Economic Development division, Hartford Department of Development Services; Clare Dowd, Hartford Neighborhood Development Support Collaborative; Mary Kay Garrow, Hartford LISC Program; Glenn Geathers, Economic Development division, Hartford Department of Development Services; and Robert Painter, member of the Committee. The following key points were made:
That the City’s project to remediate the environmental hazards at the Lyric was drawing
to a close;
That the City would next turn its attention to repairing the roof at a predicted cost of $150,000;
That the small building abutting the Lyric on Broad Street would be demolished;
That the Lyric will not be ready for development for at least six months;
That Broad-Park Development Corporation was preparing to submit a proposal to develop the Lyric;
That the City will issue a request for proposals in the event it receives no proposal to develop the Lyric and possibly in the event it does; and
That the lack of parking along Park Street is a concern that should be addressed, with the block of Park Street between Broad Street (west) and Wolcott Street (east) serving as a focal point for the development of parking.
[Document titled 2008-08-14 minutes.pdf available here http://fhnrz.com/folders/COMMITTEE/Public Docs]
Heather Brandon
There’s a space in the link not making it work? Here it is again:
http://fhnrz.com/folders/COMMITTEE/Public%20Docs/
Kerri Provost
Thanks for posting the link.
sujal
thanks for writing the summary up.
I also wanted to echo what you ended with, which mirrors something I said on Twitter earlier today. Short of sitting and waiting, what can be done to get ahead of these issues?
It’s hard to argue with a city expert who’s arguing that there’s an imminent danger without going to court quickly to block the order (in the process forcing the city to take on liability if the engineer is right).
I wonder how things could be different if two years ago we knew what the outcome would be. What could have been done? If the sense is that Capitol West is in a similar situation, what are concrete options?
Sujal
Karma
Two years ago there were plans to rehab the building as a branch of the HPL. Then the city sat on the plan, likely waiting for funding, without taking care of the structure in the meantime. No surprise that it deteriorated further and now is a public risk. When I get some time I hope to put together a list of structures in a similar situation (both city and privately owned) so perhaps this type of fast track demo can be harder to push through. The HPA does an amazing job of monitoring these situations but there is just too much to do and their staff is just too taxed. Hopefully the public interest and emotion this event has unveiled can work as a tool in the future.
Brendan
It’s Giselle Feliciano.
Kerri Provost
Interesting. When I asked someone else at City Hall what her last name was, I was told otherwise. I could not find her name listed within Torres’ bio, which is where I’ve seen other assistants’ names in the past. When I went back to hartford.gov , I noticed that now there is a separate page of contact info.
Luis
Great post and summary!
One of Governments ongoing struggles is how to get information to its residents in a timely manner, particularly when drastic actions like this one is the end result. When that happens, it is more than understandable for people to state their frustrations.
I’ve been to more than a couple meetings where the phrase “I/we’re not here to kill the messenger, but…” is said more times than “Lord hear our prayer” at a Lenten service (yeah…just came from one.) Fact is, yeah, they are killing the messenger, and you know…that’s totally fine. People have to vent to someone, and unfortunately for the messengers, in this case Mr. Geathers an Mr. Fuschi, have to take it. Some handle it better than others as you have pointed out. I felt the Mr. Fuschi was very straightforward and competent with his answers. I actually don’t think he waffledd when questioned about the the ambiguity of his language, or as the questioner stated, the “ass covering-ness” of it. He said “yes, you are right, because I’m not going to put my name on something saying that we can save it.” He later added that the assessment on the front space will be done as the demo is happening and that we should all know within a weeks time about the viability of the 585 Park Street frontage site at that time.
One thing that is for certain is that Geathers needs to make sure that emails such as the initial one sent out by Mr. Fuschi must include the Coucil chair of the corresponding Council committee (in this case Matt Ritter – PEDC) as well as the Co-Chairs of Hartford 2000. This way the community and council are included in the conversations, from the beginning.
By the way Gigi, that was my brainfart that told RealHartford Giselle Fernandez! I must have been confused you with that Puerto Rican tennis player you always remind me of 🙂 Sorry bout that to both GiGi and Kerri
Kerri Provost
I agree that Fuschi was more straightforward, verbally. Too bad he did not have more opportunity to speak.
Mat
Thanks for reporting on this. It may well be the case that the building can’t be saved. (By that, I mean there’s no economically viable way to do so.) Sadly, that’s probably been the case for some time. It’s true that the city is reactive — and the lack of empathy for residents who value buildings as part of our history and landscape is dispiriting. But I think the lesson is that members of a community must lean on officials as soon as a building of any consequence (be it historic or simply an important part of our urban fabric) becomes vacant and/or begins to fall into disrepair. Maintaining old buildings is an expensive task that only becomes more burdensome with time. We have to appreciate that the fate of a structure often is sealed well before the demolition order.
Luis
and another thing… (cuz I noticed I was going long on the previous post)
What frustrates me as a I put my resident hat on is that this was totally preventable.
Glenn Geathers mentioned that the roof needed upwards of $235k for repairs. We are now paying someone $92k to take down that portion of the building. I was initially flabbergasted that we couldn’t find $235k all these years but that we all of a sudden we have $90k to bring it down…in a weeks time.
The rationale was explained that the $92k is taken from an emergency demo fund that the city has and that we could never identify the funds. I would almost buy that if I didn’t know that the City annually selects projects for their Capital Improvements schedule which often times includes similar roof and bldg projects. The money is there and identifiable.
Fact is, no one at the City prioritized this. If the NRZ (one of the most productive in the City) had an inkling that they could’ve “squeeked” at City Hall for this money…at least the conversation is had and the community (immediate, conservationists, etc…) have a chance to weigh in to save this structure. But the NRZ though that one entity had the development rights and didn’t find out until it was too late (last year) that this wasn’t the case. Fact is, as Mr. Geathers explained to us, no one has ever had development rights on the site.
Meaning no one had a vested interest to squeek, meaning the city was the only entity charged with the responsibility of saving this building, meaning the more things change the more they stay the same and that what one meeting goer said resonates truer than anything anyone else said…This is demolition by neglect.
Heather Brandon
Any word on what’s happening now that the theater is down and the portion fronting on Park Street has presumably been inspected?
Kerri Provost
I have not heard anything.
helen raisz
Has SINA chimed in on trying to salvage the Lyric? Maybe the architecture faculty of UHa could use this as a site to challenge the students, and the Lyceum folks?
We lost the Colonial to Braza.. Let’s not have another loss of living history.